So, guys, let's roll. It's late.
..Happily Ever After -
The Couples Tell All.
Love is not enough. I've learned that the hard way.
Is it because you love your mama more than your ex-wife?
Chantel, you don't (BLEEP). Don't (BLEEP) disrespect me.
Ahh! Don't say one thing to me.
(BLEEPING)
You believe Larissa scammed Colt? Yes.
Hi. Hi, hon.
Ashley, what is the status of your relationship? We're getting divorced.
And what happened? He cheated again.
(SIGHS) Gross.
Gross?
And...
part two of Happily Ever After: The Couples Tell All.
There's a lot more to the story, way more, that you guys don't know.
You need to set the record straight? We got all night to set the record straight.
Are you there with somebody, Larissa?
Yes. Where is he?
Who the (BLEEP) are you? Get (BLEEP) off the screen.
You weren't telling her the truth.
I feel like we're trying to wade through
an awful lot of false information.
Chuck, do you think Andrei is not doing enough to provide for your daughter? Absolutely.
He's waiting for the perfect job to come along.
You hate working with your father, so I'm not gonna do that. Me or him? No.
You were supposed to be there for me. I'm doing what I can.
I just feel that I do not want to be with you.
Honestly, I'm dying inside.
Shut the (BLEEP), Paola, seriously.
You guys are ridiculous.
You guys can (BLEEP).
Hello, everybody, and welcome to part two
of 90 Day Fiance: Happily Ever After - The Couples Tell All.
I'm Shaun Robinson here in New York with our couples.
Unfortunately, Larissa could not be with us here in the studio today
because of her upcoming court date. But we do have her here via video chat.
And, later, Azan will be joining us all the way from Morocco.
You may notice that one couple is not here with us
and that is Chantel and Pedro.
We wish them the best as their journey continues on the brand-new series
The Family Chantel.
How's everybody doing? Good.
OK. Let me go back to Ashley and Jay.
Let's go back to this cheating issue.
After Jay started messaging other girls on Tinder,
you really struggled to forgive him.
But then, after he cheated on you in the barbershop...
Mm-hm. ..you took him back.
Mm-hm. Walk me through that decision.
So, basically,
I'm an idiot but I still loved him.
I married him. I know I can do better but...
I wasn't ready to throw it away.
I was not ready and, like, that's a very permanent decision.
OK, let me ask you. And be truthful with this number.
How many women in America have you had sex with? Two.
Including Ashley? Including Ashley? Three.
He has his own place, like, we're not together. Mm-hm.
And you're not getting together. The relationship is over. It's over. OK.
(SIGHS)
Yeah.
(LAUGHS)
Two, but I don't know why it's so (BLEEP) funny.
I'm sorry that I took vows and I decided to try to work through my marriage.
It's not (BLEEP) funny. But you see...
Just shut the (BLEEP), Paola, seriously.
Honestly, I'm dying inside. Just so you all know.
I sat in my bed for two weeks straight.
I couldn't take care of my kids. I lots 20 (BLEEP) pounds.
I'm hurt. You have to finalise it then.
I know. Finalise it. We're getting a divorce
and it hurts because I love him. I still love him.
I can only imagine how hard that was for Ashley after everything.
Look, I don't know if you guys are gonna say I'm wrong for what I have done
but there's a lot more to this story all of you guys don't know.
There's, like, a lot more going on.
It seems as though you feel like you need to set the record straight.
That things have been said that are not true.
We got all night to set the record straight.
It frustrates me because you always throw it back at me.
Can't you just say, "I screwed up. I'm sorry that I hurt you."
Where is that? Do you not have any compassion or, like...
I do but can you...can you...
..can you look at me and tell me...
that there's not a reason why I screwed up?
No, and I don't know why you keep saying that. Yo, just...just...
Jay, you keep saying that but I wanna know if there's a reason.
If Ashley did something to you, tell us what it is.
So, just tell me...
I answered you. ..there's not a reason... Is there something you wanna say?
Is there something? ..there's not a reason for this.
Is there something you wanna say?
I don't know why you keep saying it. You have no idea what he's talking about?
I held his green card over his head our whole marriage.
I tried to control him.
I was... I mean, ultimately, it was because I loved him and I was scared.
I didn't want to lose him. I didn't want him to go out and find somebody else.
I can't prevent that and I don't know why I thought me being controlling
would stop what he was doing.
Um, so, yeah, I'm not gonna say that he was...
Like, I was miserable.
..it's just not gonna work. The age difference, everything.
You know, she's controlling and stuff like that.
You say she's controlling? Yeah. It's just... It's just not gonna work.
So, we're gonna move on. Thank you very much for sharing that story.
Well, OK.
From the very beginning, Elizabeth's family
disapproved of her Moldovan husband Andrei.
And one person who has been particularly vocal
is her father Chuck. Let's bring him into the conversation now.
Hi, Chuck. How are you doing?
Good. Very good.
Now, you know what they say, marrying someone means marrying their family.
But when sparks fly between your family and your spouse,
whose side do you take?
Let's revisit some of the heated moments
when Elizabeth was forced to choose.
There's a lot of reasons why I'm upset.
One of the big reasons I'm upset is Andrei.
I told you one of the big things that I was concerned about
was him having employment and being able to support you.
You guys put the cart before the horse.
I was really shocked when Elizabeth told me she was pregnant.
You could have knocked me over with a feather.
Just because he came over here, got married
and then knocked up my daughter
without any...any plan in place to support her.
This can really affect not only the relationship with my dad
but the rest of my family.
I don't care! Well, I do! It's my family. I don't care!
You two need to hash it out. I'm not the mediator. I'm done doing that.
(EXHALES HEAVILY) Chuck, give me your thoughts
as you watched your daughter and Andrei interact.
Yes, it's very upsetting.
You know, I mean, my daughter being pregnant, she doesn't need that stress in her life.
What is it about Andrei that bothers you so much?
The main thing that bothers me is his pride.
He's a very, very proud person and he... You talking about yourself or what?
..he looks at it like I'm trying to help them
because I wanna control the situation, I wanna control their lives and their family.
And that's not the case.
Who do you think is...
..at majority fault in this...conflict
between Andrei and your family?
Both of them.
You're both strong-willed
and have these personalities where you just clash and you just...
put me in the middle of it and it's not fair.
Chuck, do you think that Andrei
is not doing enough to provide for your daughter and granddaughter?
Absolutely. It just seems like he has gotten complacent...
and he's, like, waiting for the perfect job to come along.
It's only a year since I've been here
and you're just, like, messing with my brain, so...
But if there's an opportunity, why not take it...
to better your family? You hate working with your father, so I'm not gonna do that.
Like, me and him? No.
A job is stressful. Like, that's kind of what a job is.
That's just how it goes. Why not just swallow your pride
and just do it for the sake of your family?
You can get the right money if you...you wait a little bit
and you have a little bit of patience.
So, how long are you gonna wait?
I'm in progress right now and everything's gonna be fine.
OK, so you wanna be head of household and I pay all the bills?
Do you have a job right now?
I have a job right now.
So you have a full-time job right now, Andrei?
Yes, I have a full-time job. And what kind of work do you do?
I drive at CMI.
It's like random though. Like, some weeks he doesn't even work.
So it's like...whenever he wants to do it.
So sometimes it's 40 hours a week, Andrei, and... Sometimes it's 60, sometimes it's none.
OK, so when they got married
I gave them a substantial amount of money
to put down on the truck that he's driving.
And when I see the truck sitting in the parking lot
and him sitting on the couch, yeah, I do get upset.
You see like what he is doing here? He is just reminding me what he did.
He says, like, "I bought you some equipment."
He holds it against me.
Elizabeth, tell me about the wedding in Moldova.
When is that happening? Good question.
Next year. I wanted it to happen this year.
because, traditionally, in...where he's from,
when you have a baby, you have to baptise them within six months.
How the hell is that gonna happen?
She's already almost four months old so we have two months...
The rules can be broken sometimes. ..to have a wedding and baptism.
It's not realistic. We're aren't doing it right now.
Chuck, are you and your daughters planning on going over to Moldova for this event?
Yes, if we're invited we're...I plan on attending.
I told you so many times you're invited. I'd like to meet Andrei's family.
I mean, where's the money gonna come from?
We're fine, I'm telling you. What am I supposed to say?
"I'm not giving it to you because I don't like Andrei's attitude"?
We're gonna be fine.
All right, so...do you think you will ever have to ask your father
for any more financial support, Elizabeth?
I hope not.
Well, Chuck, we appreciate you joining us.
Thank you so much for coming on. OK, thanks.
..but you given up.
Larissa, I gave up? I loved you.
I still (BLEEP) love you. X-TIMESTAMP-MAP=LOCAL:00:00:00.000,MPEGTS:0
Welcome back. Ready to dive back in?
When it comes to families, family feuds are inevitable.
Almost everyone here has had to choose between unconditional love
and the ones that they love. Let's watch what happened
when family bonds were put to the test.
So you're gonna go off over to Grenada with Azan. When?
I've been planning this for a while. Did you forget, Joe? No.
No-one ever tells me anything. All I heard... I hear Grenada.
And I hear Korea. I hear this and I hear that.
Why are you wasting money going to Grenada?
Well, I mean, we want to go to another country
that isn't Morocco
and just see, you know, how things are there.
I don't know about her meeting Azan in Grenada.
I think he's been stringing her along the whole time.
She's been sending him money continuously.
I think it's gonna fall apart in the end but, hey,
I just hope she doesn't come back pregnant.
Hi!
Hi.
I finally arrived at the baby shower
and I'm really surprised there are a lot of people already here.
Normally in Colombia people show up a little bit late and they stay all day.
Nobody shows on time to a party in Colombia.
There you are! Yes, I know.
Good to see you. Good to see you too.
Are you ready to get this party started? Yeah. Sorry I'm late.
Well, you know, I think that wouldn't be Pao if you weren't late.
Pao showed up late,
so when she complained about not being able to mingle
with the people at the baby shower, that's her own fault.
Allowing herself to be late...
that was awful.
(EXHALES SHARPLY) So...
Pao, I'm gonna start with you. You didn't seem to like
what Russ's mother was saying about you.
I'm surprised that she made that comment
but also I knew that they didn't like me since the beginning but I...
No, they didn't say they didn't like you.
Yeah, but your mother said it really clear, like,
that I wasn't...that she wasn't expecting that I was the one for you.
Do you think that your mother found it very disrespectful
that Pao was late to the baby shower?
Yeah, I'm sure that's where that came from.
But it's her shower. You can do whatever you want. Thank you.
You can be late. I was nervous.
I've never been on a baby shower before. That was my first one ever.
There is something that Russ knows is bothering me. That's why I didn't wanna go to your parents.
What happened between your mom that I don't wanna mention it.
That was way before this even happened. No.
You know that right now it's actually pissed me off even more.
That had nothing to do with it. Yeah, it was. What was that reason?
I can't say it. If I say that I just gonna get in trouble.
I was trying to help my mom out financially, OK?
And um...
that's what happened, I helped my mom out financially.
And I wasn't on board with that. She wasn't on board with that.
It was a decision that he made without my consent.
No, I consented with you and talked with you
and you said, "No, I don't agree with it." I never agree.
And I said, "Well, this is what we're going to do." So...
Russ gave his mother a large sum of money.
And you did not agree with him giving her money period
or the reason she wanted the money?
Both. The reason and the amount of money, it was ridiculous.
Like, I can't...I can't believe that.
I'm smart with my money
and if he's going to take that big amount of money without my consent...
Don't say your consent because I consented with you...
I never give it! ..and you didn't say yes and or no. You said, "Whatever."
It was your answer. No, I would never say that. It's way too much.
And, to be honest, Pao does send money to her family.
But, in comparison, no, I definitely helped my mother out
a lot more than over the last five years.
But right now we have a son. It is different.
All right, so let's move on.
Now, perhaps no-one has had more clashes with their in-laws than Larissa.
Her already-rocky relationship with Debbie was especially strained
when she found herself in trouble with the law.
Larissa was arrested days before her wedding to Colt
and, despite going through with their nuptials, the upcoming trial
took a toll on everyone's emotions. Let's take a look.
A few days before the wedding, Larissa and I had a confrontation.
So I called the police on Larissa and she was arrested.
The state of Nevada is charging Larissa with domestic battery
and Larissa's trial is a week away.
So, the alleged victim in the case is Colt, your husband.
He's stated that you started yelling at him and lunged at him
and it says that you scratched him.
Right now even the house, it's completely toxic.
I don't think you need to be married to each other.
I think your relationship stinks.
I don't wanna be comp... I'm his mother. Why would I want competition? Darling!
You know what? You are so mean to me. Stop being hostile.
You need to be nice to me!
There have been times when I thought her getting deported because of this,
maybe it would be for the best.
But Colt loves Larissa.
Yeah.
You're welcome.
Yeah? OK.
I'm sorry for everything.
But we should take this as a good thing.
What happened is a miracle.
We survived a lot and here we are.
I accept. Thank you.
Larissa, er...
Larissa?
Tell me what you're...tell me what you're crying about right now.
Um...
What were you thinking, Colt, when you were looking at that video?
It was hard. I remember my marriage with Larissa was really bad...
right before her first trial.
But after her case was dismissed I thought, "Wow, we survived
and this is a second chance
and maybe we can work things out." But, unfortunately, we didn't.
In that moment, it seemed like Larissa and Debbie were getting along.
Yeah, at that moment it really seemed like everything was perfect.
It really was a perfect moment.
But moments don't last, I guess.
Larissa, you're using Debbie as an excuse.
Listen.
Yes, you just said you wish I was the man for you,
husband for you, but Debbie.
You could have been a wife any time. You could've been there for me.
I don't think you've done anything for me at all.
You could have been more patient.
Larissa, there were a lot of people who questioned
whether you even loved Colt. What would you say to them?
Do you think Larissa really loved you?
(SIGHS) I don't know.
I thought Larissa loved me but the way she acted...
She never listened to anything that I needed or wanted from her.
She always complained about my mother or money or the car.
Everything was wrong with her.
You ignored me 99% of the time.
I just said I wanted a hug, you called me needy.
I asked you to calm down, not to yell and scream
and go crazy cos you wanted to clean the garage. I said, "Chill out."
We can't even get along together as a couple and you're worried about cleaning the (BLEEP) garage.
Who gives a (BLEEP)? We have no marriage, no relationship.
Larissa. This what's happened.
Larissa, I gave up? Three arrests in six months of marriage.
Who paid for all your lawyers? Who bailed you out of jail?
I loved you. Do you realise that?
I still (BLEEP) love you. X-TIMESTAMP-MAP=LOCAL:00:00:00.000,MPEGTS:0
I loved you. Do you realise that?
I still (BLEEP) love you.
Larissa, hold on there, we're gonna be right back. Let's take a break.
(INDISTINCT CHATTER) Oh, my gosh.
MAN: Five-minute break. Five-minute break. Bathrooms...
Babe, why are you going that way?
I don't know. It's very easy to get confused.
I guess just old feelings coming up again.
This is the first time I've seen her since...her third arrest.
You know, and then she does her little laugh that I love, of course,
and she's funny. I still (BLEEP) love her.
That's stupid, right?
I'm divorced now.
I can look past her flaws.
And when she's good, she's really (BLEEP) good.
Like she is funny, she's kind. She is caring.
She's beautiful. She's...
Yes.
Yes. This is (BLEEP).
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Being here is...mixed emotions.
If Larissa starts attacking me, I will attack back.
I'm sure Larissa is gonna be blaming me for everything.
Her upcoming court date isn't very far away
and I want her to be deported
because as long as she's here she'll always have Colt to fall back on
and I don't want that.
Hey, Mom. Hey. Hi, Debbie. Hello.
You been watching? Yeah. Uh-oh.
I can't hear... I couldn't hear her real well. Oh, good.
MAN: All right, here we go. In five, four, three, two...
We are back with 90 Day Fiance: Happily Ever After - The Couples Tell All.
I'm Shaun Robinson and I'm here with everyone, including Colt's mom, Debbie,
as we focus on what went wrong with Colt and Larissa's relationship.
Hi. Hi, Debbie, how are you?
Fine, how are you? I'm fantastic. My question to you is
what was it like living with Larissa during this time?
Hell. It was hell.
Larissa is very moody. One day she'll wake up, she's happy as can be,
she's all friendly. The next day she'd wake up and wouldn't talk to you.
Larissa, was that true? Were you moody with Debbie when she tried to say good morning?
Debbie, did you want Colt and Larissa's marriage to succeed?
I don't hate Larissa. I hate what she's done to Colt.
I tried to stay away from them as much as possible, to let them live their life.
Colt and Larissa's decision to divorce didn't happen overnight.
Let's take a look at some of the events that led to their break-up.
How come you guys aren't wearing your rings?
Would you like to explain or should I?
(GASPS)
You threw the ring away?
That's just like taking Colt's pay roll and going, "Oh."
No, no. No.
Colt told me that he doesn't care about it.
He might not care about it but I do.
I did not say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
Larissa is trying to push my buttons again.
She will do stuff just to make me upset.
I think it's because she wants me to move.
The chair and slot machine are staying put.
No, it's not even an option. I'm sorry, no.
I can't talk when you're like this. I just - Stop talking for a minute.
Oh!
You're not moving the (BLEEP) slot machine.
..my husband is a (BLEEP).
You should treat me with respect. Don't talk to me like that. I'm your husband.
You're unhappy.
I can't mediate -
I tell Colt...
Where are you going?
She's going crazy.
She constantly is my (BLEEP) enemy about everything.
She doesn't work with me for anything.
'Hey, gimme, gimme, gimme.'
No, this is not how it works.
I'm not made of money.
(BLEEP)!
Whoo! Colt, you're usually pretty calm.
What made you go off in that moment?
I was spending a lot of money on Larissa.
It wouldn't stop.
Always something, every week.
Money was such a big topic between you and Colt.
But then you threw your wedding ring down the toilet.
How much did you spend on the wedding ring?
I spent about $2,000.
You don't know that.
You're lying. You're saying half-truths about everything.
She cannot communicate at all.
Have you ever gotten so upset that you took your ring off?
Yep.
I'm not going to throw my ring away. I love it. Russ?
Absolutely not.
Yeah, I have. A couple of times!
Threw it at him. Threw it at Russ?
Yeah. That was our honeymoon.
After the first trip, I was really upset.
I took it off once.
Colt, the fact that she threw away the ring,
what was more hurtful?
It was a symbol of our marriage.
Every time I tried to talk to her, she ignored me.
I wish I would have been more patient with Larissa.
I don't think it's possible, but...
If Larissa and I could sit down and not argue
and be understanding and patient,
I guess I would want to be back with Larissa.
Never say never.
So you're not saying no.
No.
Are you there with somebody?
You're with your boyfriend.
Is he listening to this? He's listened!
No, I'm not.
OK. So, your boyfriend just heard you say
you would think about getting back together -
If you don't answer, that means you're thinking about it.
Are you married? No.
Larissa, can Eric pop in? Oh, God.
Where is he?
This is really awkward.
Eric!
What am I missing, first of all?
You don't know what you're missing.
It sounds like it.
Etic, how did you guys first meet?
From the internet.
I'd gotten out of a relationship.
And... That day.
I messaged her.
When I met her, I was like, wow.
You consider Larissa your girlfriend?
I would say so!
Is she not considering me her boyfriend?
There was a conversation just a few seconds ago.
I asked Larissa if she would want to get back with Colt.
She said, never say never.
If that's the case, I'll have to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
How would you describe your relationship with Eric?
Do you consider him your boyfriend?
When we argue, we make it up like this.
We always try to be happy.
I'm glad that I fixed her for you. I went through all the (BLEEP).
Fixed her?
Why are you doing this?
I'm not doing anything. Yes, you are.
Why is he there?
He has no business there.
Why are you doing this? To hurt him? Stop.
Larissa, you're (BLEEP). You're (BLEEP).
I poured my heart out to you and you're making fun of me.
Colty, no! I used to respect you until about five minutes ago.
You've lost her respect.
You're (BLEEP) now.
Eric, do you feel threatened by Colt at all?
Absolutely.
Why? I'm just kidding.
I don't care. You're horrible.
We're going to get a restraining order.
Larissa, you're a monster.
I hope you get deported.
We're going to move on.
We're not getting anywhere.
What are you doing? He's tell a lot of lies.
I don't want to do this any more.
When they come back with respect,
stop calling me a lot of things,
I will answer.
You (BLEEP) up, not them.
This is too much.
I'm taking the blame for everything.
She showed me messages. You and her.
(BLEEP)!
It's all over.
And later...
You are supposed to be there for me. I'm doing what I can.
You're not doing enough.
I just don't want Axel to be the only reason I'm with my husband.
I do not want to be with you. X-TIMESTAMP-MAP=LOCAL:00:00:00.000,MPEGTS:0
Leave it.
We need to finish.
I agree with you, but let's get this done.
Let's finish.
They'll get the message here.
Larissa, can you hear me?
Yeah.
Larissa, obviously this is very hurtful to Colt.
I think there was some surprise when people heard you laughing.
Were you making light of the way Colt was feeling?
I like you a lot.
But I think it's not fair.
Larissa, this is your control.
But I can't -
Cut her off. Cut her off.
He's sitting next to you. It's too soon.
Yeah, but he should be respecting
that this is between you and Colt.
That's what I said originally. (BLEEP) off!
OK. Larissa, we know that your legal issues are outstanding.
What update can you give us?
Colt, how would you feel if Larissa went back to Brazil?
I don't care.
Larissa made it very clear to me
that she doesn't care about me any more.
So I don't care about her any more.
I want you deported.
I will hug you and say I'm sorry.
Debbie, this seems to be the final straw for you,
seeing Larissa with her boyfriend.
She keeps making fun of him.
She's lying her brains out.
She's using Colt and she's a liar.
I want her gone.
Etic, is your relationship with Larissa
strong enough today that if she does get deported,
you would move to Brazil with her?
Is that the only way to prevent a deport?
DEBBIE: That's not how it works.
Why not?
That's not an answer.
Are you saying that you would? I'd move there.
I'd move out of the country, sell everything.
Sell my house.
Why not?
What the (BLEEP) hell's going on?
Oh, hell no. What's going on?
Larissa, I want to talk now. Can I talk, please?
Eric, I don't know who you are. I don't care.
But I want you off.
You're disrespecting me.
What you want you can't always get, sir. Get the (BLEEP) off the screen!
Face the facts. It didn't work.
You're not a part of this, dude. Get (BLEEP) off.
Looks like I am.
DEBBIE: This is (BLEEP).
Hold on.
Get him off.
I don't want him there.
He has no business being there.
Colt didn't bring a girl. This is wrong.
No.
DEBBIE: He was being very honest.
Five minutes later, she's hugging and loving Eric.
Kissing and laughing. Something's wrong with her.
Something is really wrong with her.
She's a monster.
Get (BLEEP) rid of him or I'm not going out there.
You need to get him off the show.
Get him off the TV.
Get him (BLEEP) off.
Get him off. I don't care.
He has no business there.
(BLEEP), he assaults me with his presence.
He - Go away.
This is enough.
My love, my feelings, my marriage and divorce, are a (BLEEP) joke.
She's laughing, giggling.
Brings her little boyfriend. Or whatever the (BLEEP) he is.
If you want me in there, get him off. Simple as that.
Um... OK.
He's left the building.
This is garbage, that's what it is.
Just playing with his feelings.
Dude, wake up.
Guys? I'm coming in.
There's no reason he needs to be here.
He poured his heart out and now they're laughing at him!
Get him off the (BLEEP) screen.
Or I'm going to leave. How about that?
Fine.
Obviously she doesn't give a (BLEEP) about me. At all.
So...whatever.
I didn't think Larissa could do or say anything to make me feel better.
I guess maybe she could say that she's sorry.
But at this point, I don't give a (BLEEP).
OK.
I don't know if this is ever going to get resolved.
But Eric, thank you very much for joining us.
This has been a very interesting conversation.
Goodbye.
Get the (BLEEP) off.
OK.
All right.
Joining us now, we have Nicole's mother Robbalee.
Hello. Welcome. Good to see you again.
Hi. You look very nice. Hello.
Most of the couples who are here tonight have said 'I do.'
But there's one couple who still has yet to tie the knot.
Of course I am talking about Nicole and Azan.
Azan has been waiting to join us in Morocco.
Let's bring him into the conversation.
Hi, Azan. How are you? I'm good.
When was the last time you and Nicole saw each other?
A lot of months. A lot of months.
Yeah. It's been a year.
Wow.
It's been a year. Wow.
Why did you cancel your trip to Morocco?
I really wanted to see him.
But stuff happened.
It couldn't happen. The trip.
OK.
But next time I go, I'll have all the papers, then we'll get married.
I can stay there.
You'll get married there, then he'll get his visa,
and you'll come here to live? That is a long wait.
He knows he can't come to America
for at least two years.
OK.
We al know that Nicole and Azan are the ultimate
'will they or won't they' couple.
But if and when they get married
isn't the only question left unanswered.
It's hard to know the truth
when secrets are at the heart of a relationship.
Let's watch.
I still believe that Arofkan
knows exactly what's going on over there with Azan.
Yeah.
A couple weeks ago,
a guy emailed me.
He is Arofkan.
He knows Azan is stringing Nicole on.
Honey?
Nicole told me she spoke to Azan.
Grenada was called off.
You've managed to use up most of your money
that you had in reserve for these tickets back to Morocco.
What are you going to do when you get there?
Do we even have a plan
for how you guys are going to support yourselves?
Don't worry. You could rely on the store to fund your stay over there.
Most of the people that have those stores
are there from open to close.
Which is usually before the sun rises and after the sun sets.
Well...
There is no store.
Tell us about these emails that Joe was talking about.
Joe surprises me with those every once in a while.
He'll be like 'I just got an email.'
The whole family gets emails.
I do to, but I delete them most of the time.
They're all crap.
Who sent these emails to Joe?
I don't know who it was. He doesn't know.
A random stranger.
Do you think there is any truth to what they were saying?
Do I think that the stuff is real?
I don't know.
OK. I want to know about the shop.
Azan, you said that Nicole gave you $6,000
to start the shop.
You put in $500. Where did that money go?
But she sent you the money to start the shop.
But there is no shop.
We have a place that we rented.
We found a good area.
We're in the process of getting all the product for it.
It's happened recently.
So there is an actual building.
Yes.
When will this business be up and running?
I think I've found a place.
I just need to open it.
Robbalee, are you just as confused as I am?
I feel like we're trying to wade through an awful lot of...
..false information.
To try to figure out what part of it is real and what isn't.
We're working to get everything set up.
And make sure that we can open it up soon.
OK. Nicole, you were really looking forward
to going to Grenada.
You seemed like you weren't that bothered
when Azan cancelled that trip at the very last minute.
Is that how you were really feeling?
Are you just not going to talk about it?
You were packed.
You were ready to go.
Did it bother you?
Of course I wanted to go.
But stuff comes up sometimes.
We'll see each other eventually.
I was hoping for it but it's not that big of a deal.
Azan, why did you cancel this trip at the very last second?
It was a family emergency.
I don't know. I don't know what to say.
We hope everybody's OK. Was anyone hurt?
Nobody's hurt.
Robbalee, when do you think
your daughter and Azan are going to get married?
That's a very good question, Azan.
It is a good question.
OK.
Azan, thank you for joining us.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Let's take a break.
For the trip?
It was just becoming a lot.
Be careful, Nicole. Like, seriously.
I really like you.
My honest opinion, I think he's...
I agree with your family.
He's stringing you along.
Just be careful.
Sometimes I can't stand him.
If you're not going to help me, why are you even here with me?
We were naive to think this baby would bring us closer together.
I'm not going to have you say (BLEEP)
and try to hook up with my girl or my ex.
Man! He's throwing.
It's hard to use the (BLEEP) word. X-TIMESTAMP-MAP=LOCAL:00:00:00.000,MPEGTS:0
We are back with 90 Day Fiance, Happily Ever After.
The couples tell all. I'm Shaun Robinson.
Jay, I'd like to dive deeper into your conflicts
But first, I would like to bring Jay's friends, or former friends,
Michael and Kendell from the barbershop,
into the conversation.
Welcome.
(SIGHS)
Before we dive in, where do things stand with the both of you
and Jay?
Are you still friends? No.
I haven't talked to Jay since the situation.
Is this the situation that broke up your friendship?
Yeah.
Jay's infidelity began on social media.
But things escalated when he started hanging out at the barbershop.
It all came to a head when Ashley visited the shop
and Mike and Kendell told her about his cheating.
Um...
I kinda like wanted to come in
and see if Jay's been up to no good.
You know.
'For me, I wanted to come to the barbershop
because they're Jay's only friends.'
And feeling like they might have something
they want to tell me today.
It made me extremely nervous.
Do you guys know anything?
He disrespected my barbershop.
He took somebody in the bathroom.
There was customers in here.
He took someone in?
We were in here working.
All of a sudden,
he got quiet. We didn't know what was going on.
Someone wanted to use the bathroom.
He was like, 'Hold up.'
Who is that?
That's me. And Jay.
I'm not sure if he told you about that.
No.
Yeah. That was the reason why we had this confrontation.
So he took a girl into the bathroom and had sex with her
while you were trying to work. Yes.
I'm sorry it had to come to you like that.
I appreciate you letting me know.
Thank you.
Ashley, come on. (SOBBING)
Don't want it right now.
I'm done.
OK. Where do I start with this?
Jay, I know this is uncomfortable for you.
What is it like -
It's actually not uncomfortable.
You know why?
Because it's all over.
There's nothing to hide.
It's whatever.
What is it like for you to see Michael and Kendell again?
I mean, I...
I appreciate that they told me.
They didn't have to tell me.
Nothing against them.
It's the whole situation.
It's hard to re-live, you know.
Explain to us what happened in the security footage
that you showed Ashley.
What led up to that confrontation?
I was made aware that Jay was in the bathroom
with a female client that he had.
He was trying to... You know.
And so, she left.
That's when I took Jay out back.
I told him 'Don't disrespect the barbershop like that.
You're going to disrespect everybody in here.'
I've got customers in there. Come on, man.
It's a place of business.
Did you think it was inevitable
that Jay would cheat on Ashley?
He's young. He still wanted to play.
He's coming from Jamaica all the way to America.
He's seeing all these beautiful women.
He's going to make mistakes.
He weren't mature enough. Bro, this is too much.
This is too much.
I've been taking the blame from day one.
You're in that relationship.
There's no reason to keep hurting her.
You ain't ready for it, that's all.
You wasn't ready for it.
No reason to keep on trying.
Procrastinating.
Y'all got something going on. Lying.
I want to understand. Guys, hold up.
MICHAEL: I'm helping her out.
She said we made up lies for you.
She showed me messages between you and her.
That I was with some strippers.
I'm not going to help you hook up with my girl.
Or my ex. (BLEEP) whatever.
Ashley, he making the same, like me and you had something going on.
That you and I have something going on? Yeah.
No, we never had anything going on. Exactly.
You always (BLEEP) making things up.
Not them.
He's saying like somebody wanted your girl.
Just shut up.
Jay? No. Jay, come back.
OK.
He's a kid.
No, no, look, look. Look, look.
It is... It is nothing going at the barbershop or nothing like that.
Ash know and I know and that's all there is to the story.
What does that mean? That's all there is to the (BLEEP) story.
Jay?
Michael, Kendell, what was it about Jay
that made you think he wasn't serious from the very beginning?
I mean, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt
but it didn't seem like that's what he wanted.
(BLEEP) You know what's the craziest thing?
I know so much about these guys.
Kendell messaged Ashley behind my back
and I confronted him about it and that was that.
So I don't got no issues for him.
I think Jay is coming back.
You know what's the thing with you?
You always feel like you have to prove a point.
OK.
Let's move on for now.
Michael and Kendell, thank you for joining us.
Yeah.
After the barbershop betrayal, Ashley sent Jay packing.
Take a look at what happened when Jay arrived at the house to pick up his belongings.
So, you told me that she just (BLEEP). What is the real story?
I highly suggest you just admit to it.
And then it just happened and that was it.
So, what's the real story?
She told me every possible thing that you could do, you did.
What do you have to say for yourself?
Are you (BLEEP) proud?
What the (BLEEP) do you mean, "Whose fault is it?"
Is it my fault? Is it my (BLEEP) fault?!
Get your (BLEEP) ass out! Yo, listen.
No! Uh-uh! Get the (BLEEP) out of my house,
you piece of (BLEEP)!
Yeah, take your (BLEEP) ass out of my house!
Come on.
MAN:
Uh, my husband and I have had a huge falling out.
What, is this a cop or something?
(SIGHS) OK. That was intense.
Very.
Very. Ashley, were you surprised to see Jay show up at the house
after you told him to leave? Yeah.
I was angry. Imagine you...
..finding that out about your husband. It's embarrassing. I'm embarrassed.
I'm ashamed because it's out of control.
I wanted them to remove him from the house
but basically they said, "You're married, you can't."
Have you ever kicked him out of the house before?
That was the first time? Mm-hm.
Colt, can you emphasise with Ashley?
Because you've obviously called the police before, right?
Yes.
So, what are you thinking about this conversation?
Sounds very familiar. I mean,
more or less the same thing happened with Larissa and I.
It was a hard decision. I think I made a mistake.
I admit that. I...
But at the time I thought that was the only option, so...
Ashley, did you ever feel, at any point, that you made a mistake?
Oh, yeah, there's things that I definitely did wrong.
I shouldn't have called the police but he cheated on me.
I lost it.
Was there a police report? Yeah.
She press charges against you? No, there was no charges pressed
cos she was the one who was being aggressive so...
You didn't press charges against each other, but you called the cops? I'm...
I'm not the type of person to press charges against someone-
There was nothing to press charges for.
One more question I have for you.
When he was by your side in the hospital,
you said you saw a different side to him.
Mm-hm. How did you get from...
"I see another side to him..."
You know, "He's... He's a better man than I thought,"
to..."We're getting a divorce"?
You know...
He's young and I just wanted to try to work through it.
I wanted to go to counselling. I just was not ready to give up.
Then...
I never forgave him.
I couldn't move past it.
I treated him like (BLEEP).
I was controlling. I held his Green Card over his head.
And eventually that pushed us completely apart.
To the point that one night I woke up just to get water at three in the morning
and he was sleeping and his phone kept lighting up.
I don't check his phone. I really don't. I don't go through his phone.
But it kept lighting up and it was four in the morning so I picked it up.
The text was a bunch of whore emojis.
So I got in his phone and...
..he had a whole other relationship.
It wasn't just like he's cheated on me.
He had a whole other relationship going on.
What were those text messages saying?
"I love you."
"We can move in together soon."
Yeah, there was.
There was a lot of photos that were very inappropriate and he...
was very vocal that he didn't want to work on the marriage, that he wanted to be with her.
He defended her. No.
Yes, you did. No, you're wrong.
OK. You're wrong.
He looked at me and said, "Why can't you just leave me alone and let me be happy? She's my age."
And that was like... Age has always been a thing for me.
I was... Honestly, I was heartbroken.
I couldn't even be a mom. Ash, whenever I was talking to that girl,
you were talking to both of your exes.
Who? You were talking to your exes in front of my face.
What? No, I was not. Not until we separated was I talking to anybody in front of your face.
So why are you lying?
You was messaging... whatever his name is.
I don't... Like...
I know I'm not supposed to search through 'em, but I did.
That's a like. It's the (BLEEP) truth.
I'm not telling a lie. You guys are ridiculous!
I'm done. I'm done with today.
Take my mic off me. I'm done. (BLEEP) X-TIMESTAMP-MAP=LOCAL:00:00:00.000,MPEGTS:0
I'm done. I'm done with today.
Take my mic off me. I'm done. (BLEEP)
OK, hold up. We've...got a situation here.
OK. Hold up just one second. Ashley's left.
I'm done. You guys (BLEEP). I'm done.
I'm done with him. I'm done with this. I'm ready to go.
Which car is mine?
OK. Where?
OK.
We've got to keep things moving.
OK. Now, we've seen two of our couples go from getting married in 90 days to starting a family.
Let's take a look at the ups and downs of becoming parents.
So, congratulations.
Good gosh. Yeah.
So it's a girl. Oh, baby.
Please turn sideways toward me.
(AMPLIFIED HEARTBEAT)
We're having a little boy.
Your belly.
The baby's making everything- Oh, my God, I don't wanna see it.
We have a very stubborn baby, I'm sure.
Like Mommy. And Daddy. (LAUGHS)
Elizabeth informed me that she and Andrei decided they did not want me in the birthing room.
I wanted you there by my side. Right.
You don't know what to expect. You don't.
I can't believe it. I mean, it's gonna break my heart.
Pao started getting contractions a couple of hours ago.
I'm feeling anxious.
(CONTROLLED PANTING)
(CONTROLLED SCREAMING)
Holding my baby for the first time is a dream come true.
I'm a mom... (LAUGHS) ..and I still don't believe it.
I had her naturally, which wasn't easy.
It was excruciating pain.
I had a great support system and my mom in the room,
which was nice.
Nicole, you were just so emotional watching that.
What was going through your mind? Oh, I was just thinking about
back when I had, you know, given birth to May.
I didn't really have the support from her dad,
so seeing the other couples together made me really happy and emotional
cos it makes me excited to start a family with Azan.
Russ and Pao, what about you? Has Axel made your marriage stronger?
It's been challenging.
We were naive to think that this baby would bring us closer together.
I think we're fighting too much.
Pao doesn't feel like I'm around enough.
Travel is impacting...
He was gone for almost 20 days since Axel was born,
when I needed him the most, and he was gone.
Sometimes when he's around the house,
I don't feel that he helps me a lot.
So I prefer for him to be gone.
Because if you're not gonna help me, why are you even here with me?
Just because it's so overwhelming, so stressful that...
I don't meet her expectations or I've done something wrong.
As much as I love Axel...
..he's the only reason that's drawing me back.
It sounds like he works very hard and he tries.
Cut him some slack. A little bit.
Just because I don't go to an office
that doesn't mean that taking care of a baby's not a job.
No. I feed my baby every two hours, every one hour. It's a lot of work.
No-one's saying that. You do a great job, I'm sure.
But so does he.
I'm to the point I need some counsellor or something
cos I don't feel Pao sees my perspective.
I've asked Pao to do this and she's still not on board with it.
No.
At this point, I don't want to.
It's not the right moment to actually make that move.
And, even more, I'm not agreeing with that.
I'm just... I can't.
But then don't hound me with the fact that I'm not helping when I'm trying to.
OK. Russ and Pao, what you shared with us was very personal and poignant,
so we certainly wish you the best. Thank you. Thank you.
Elizabeth and Andrei, we're gonna come to you next,
but first...where is baby Eleanor?
Oh, look! So sweet!
Hi, Pamela.
Hi, baby Eleanor.
Oh!
How adorable! Hello, everybody.
Pamela, what was it like for you
when Elizabeth said, "I need my mom in the room"?
It was amazing. When she said yes, it was just...
I can't even explain it. You know, just such a great moment.
Are you glad that she was in there, Andrei?
Er, at one point, yes, cos she gave me a little bit of a break.
(LAUGHS)
Elizabeth, do you think Andrei should have done anything differently during this process?
I think maybe just sitting back and letting me take the reins. (ELEANOR SQUEALS)
When you're going through that, if someone doesn't listen to you, it's the worst thing
and it just makes is so much harder.
He also told me to control my hormones
and I almost cut his head off.
I think he knows now that that's not as easy...
Right. Do you want to use this opportunity to apologise for that statement?
Oh, he's digging a bigger hole.
Eleanor? Hey. Say bye-bye.
Bye. Bye, Eleanor. (LAUGHS)
Thank you, Pamela. Sure. My pleasure.
She's so cute. Oh, no, don't go.
Let's move on. Colt, Larissa's court date is quickly approaching.
Do you have anything that you would like to say to her?
Goodbye, Larissa.
But do you live in fear at all that you will be...
either deported or at least facing some jail time?
OK, so Ashley's left.
Jay, is there anything that you want to get off your chest?
We're going through a hard time right now.
I don't even know what's going to be the outcome of this.
But no matter what,
I love her and...
it's hard to say.
Nicole, we are hoping for the best between you and Azan.
Hopefully that marriage will be happening soon.
Because I know that's what you want.
Do you think it will happen within the next year?
Yes. I definitely think so.
And Andrei and Elizabeth,
we hope things get better with the family unit.
But congratulations on being new parents. Thank you.
All right, guys, I wish you all the best as you enter the next phase of your relationships.
Thanks for watching. That's a wrap.
All right, thank you, guys, so much.
Thank you, everybody.
Thank you so much.
Thank you. Thank you, sweetheart.
Good luck, man. Good luck to you too.
Can I hold her? Yeah, if she doesn't cry.
OK. Hi. Oh, my goodness.
(RINGING TONE)
Voice messaging system...
Voice message system.
(RINGING TONE)
Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system.
Yeah, I don't think.
She blocked you? Yeah.
How do you know she blocked you? Cos it's just going straight to voicemail.
We did not get anywhere today.
Today made things worse.
I've been taking all the heat on social media.
"You're a cheater." This, that, that, that. All along.
All I wanted to do today was just be like,
yeah, I mean, stuff did happen.
On both sides.
She's mad about what happened today. I can't help that.
You know, it takes two people to make a relationship work.
So, I'm going to try the best I can.
It's just up to her to put in work as well.
So I'm going to give her some time to herself...
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It was a long day.
The issues have not been resolved.
She's a very manipulative person. My dad was honest.
He is who he is, you know.
You know how he is.
He is manipulating people, all around, all of your family.
I'm yet again torn in between the two of you and I'm done with it.
It ends here.
Me and Azan have been through a lot
as, you know, we lost trust a while ago.
I mean, I understand everyone's frustration,
wondering if we're going to get married or not
because it's been three and a half years and...
we're still not married.
And I'm just going to ignore it all and trust my fiance.
But I'll be excited when we finally do.
(SIGHS)
Well, that was interesting.
Yeah, I'm glad that's over.
Do you really feel like that?
The only reason you want to come home is because of Axel?
Yeah.
You stress me out, Pao.
You get me to the point like it's a breaking point.
I don't feel you helping me enough.
You are supposed to be there for me.
I'm doing what I can.
Well, you're not doing enough.
I just feel that I'm moving away from you,
like I do not want to be with you.
Do you not see that we need a marriage counsellor?
We need someone to...
Yes, someone is going to tell you, maybe you need to take a break from work
and you need to be more involved in this.
And I am involved, Pao.
I don't want to be the person to tell you to do this.
You should be doing this because he's your son.
I want to go and see my son because... I'm ready to see him.
Me too.
I feel like I've been raising Axel by myself.
And I just don't want Axel to be the only reason I'm with my husband.
It's not enough.
How'd it go?
He did?
Just trying to get people together.
I feel embarrassed.
That was a very emotional experience.
I told Larissa I loved her.
And I meant it but...
as soon as I told Larissa I loved her she took it away and spat on it.
Kind of like our marriage.
The way Larissa acted tonight,
flaunting her boyfriend,
and basically making fun of me,
that was definitely the final nail in the coffin.
She destroyed the last remnants of love.
I feel like I had a sword stuck inside of me
and she pulled it out.
And I'm bleeding but I can heal.
Right now I have more questions than answers.
I have no idea if Larissa will be at her own trial or not.
And I don't know if I want Larissa to be deported or not.
But the trial is only a few weeks away,
so, we'll see.
In there you don't need to look at him,
you don't need to do anything.
Just go in.
Hey, guys.
Hey, Larissa. Good to see you.
Hi. Adam Vander Heyden.
Nice to meet you. I'm Eric.
Larissa, today's the big day, OK?
I don't know.
So it's very important, whatever negotiation we make today,
you go along with those requirements. OK?
You guys ready to go?
I'm a little cautious about seeing Larissa today.
I was really depressed after I came back from the tell-all. It was hard.
I felt like I hit rock bottom.
It was very emotional. I feel like she played me.
And... I don't really want to see her.
OK, let's go.
I would like Larissa to go to jail.
She gets away with everything in her life,
so at this point I would like her to take responsibility for something.
All right, guys, so how are we feeling?
(LARISSA LAUGHS) Feel better?
You're in the clear for now. Yeah. (LAUGHS)
We were able to reach a negotiation.
The end result of today's hearing involves her paying a fine
for $345.
She'll have to do 48 hours of community service.
I really hope she doesn't get into any more trouble.
All right, guys, so just remember the most important thing.
Pay that fine,
get that community service done and stay out of trouble, OK?
After we've completed the requirements, the charge will be dropped to disorderly conduct.
Now, remember, that's a very low-level misdemeanour crime.
I've also checked with your immigration attorney,
that crime will not affect your ability to become a citizen of the United States.
OK?
That's good news. Really good news.
So it has been a pleasure, Larissa.
Been a pleasure meeting you. Thank you.
All right, guys, have a good day.
And hopefully you'll never need me ever again.
All right?
Have a good day.
I'm happy that Larissa's happy because it's great news.
That's a big relief for me.
I know it's a huge relief for her.
First meeting Larissa, I never would have guessed I'd be in this situation.
But all I can say is that she just needs to follow the instructions
and we're just taking things slowly.
Get this off our plate first. (LAUGHS)
Adam's a sweetheart.
It's over. Yeah.
You OK? Yes.
I don't think you are.
I'm upset that Larissa got away with it.
I really wanted her to be in jail.
And I was hoping Immigration would show up.
But I would like to see, next, that she gets deported.
I think she needs to go home.
But it's finally over.
I don't have to deal with it any more.
Colt doesn't have to deal with it any more.
So it's good.
It's... next step in life.
(COLT SIGHS)
Now what? Let's go home.
Want to have some beef stew?
Yeah, let's make some beef stew.
I ran into Larissa at the end.
In the courtroom, after everything was over.
I didn't recognise Larissa.
She doesn't look the same.
I just shook Larissa's hand,
told her to stay out of trouble and walked away.
I don't think it's fair for Larissa to stay in this country right now.
Our marriage fell apart.
I cancelled her Green Card.
I pulled my affidavit support.
She has no reason to be here.
But it's out of my hands at this point.
I feel like my chapter with Larissa is over.
I'm looking forward to moving on.
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